A Woman’s Role, Guest Post by Joshua Dale

Before I say anything more…check out the previous post from Joshua on my blog…I HIGHLY suggest it!  Here’s the link:
“Stones not Bricks: You are the Standard for Normal”

Joshua blogs over at tommarroww.wordpress.com.  My faith has really been stretched by the things I’ve learned from Joshua.  He has studied Hebrew on his own for many many years, so gets LOTS of questions from me.  Surprisingly he hasn’t told me to stop thinking so much.  I am thrilled to have him share on one of the many things I’ve picked his brain on…the role of women in life and the church

kingAdamQueenEve (1)A Woman’s Role

Gender suppression has been an issue for at least two thousand years and better, especially in the Body.  Too many people have been held back from living life to the fullest as a result of this oppression. There are many reasons for this but they are not relevant. The bottom line is its wrong and it’s time to grow up.

Roles are an invention of mankind to enslave people. Let me explain. In our modern society many people, most often religious people, think it’s a woman’s role to take care of the house and raise the kids whiles it’s a man’s role to provide for and protect the family. Think of the stress this puts on a marriage relationship.  Think of the emotional oppression this puts on people who don’t feel as though they adequately fill those roles. From the beginning this was not so. This form of thinking has its roots in Hellenistic Greek philosophy.

In the beginning God created Adam and Havah (Eve). They were one, united, single. Then God removed woman from man and brought them back together reuniting them. Men and women have the exact same chromosomes except for the ‘Y’. They are created equal.

Roles state they are not equal, that the woman is somehow inferior to man. This is contrary to the word of God. The reality is that it’s about responsibility. In a family structure, it is both parents responsibility to provide for the family, take care of the home, raise the kids, and so on. How a couple decides to share those responsibly is their decision alone.

This is the heart of the issue yet its effect extends beyond the marriage relationship. Roles have also been implemented in the Body of Messiah under the same mentality that women are inferior to men. Worse, still, is the perverted use of scripture to support these afterthoughts.

Number one, Paul is not God. The epistles he writes are not commandments. Often times he, himself, reminds us of this. Yet, like other scripture, people readily ignore what they don’t want to hear so they can enforce what seemingly supports their agenda. Peter admonished believes to be aware of this (2 Peter 3:15-16). This application of scripture is backwards.

In the Body of Messiah we are all equal. No one person has authority over another. Likewise, no one gift is greater than another. God gives gifts to whom he will. Should he bestow the gift of a pastor or an apostle or a prophet or a healer upon a female, who are we to oppose the Spirit of God? This applies to every gift from God.

From the beginning God gave us the authority to rule over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves upon the earth; not over our fellow man. As a result of sin, we’ve perverted that authority to lord over one another.

As believers this should not be. Love one another; respect the gifts God has given them. Likewise, don’t allow anyone to suppress the gifts God has given you or hold you back from performing the work he desires you to do. And when you see your fellow believer being oppressed, vehemently stand up for them. Be a stone not a brick.

If y’all want to ask questions or dialogue more about this, I’m sure Joshua wouldn’t mind, and neither would I.  Which means please do.  :)

Cheers, Katy


8 thoughts on “A Woman’s Role, Guest Post by Joshua Dale”

  1. One thing I brought up after I first read this was: I’m sure people see Eve being made to be a “helper” as more evidence that she’s inferior…or not meant to lead…just a thought.

    In which Joshua responded (via email): “The idea of a help mate is more like an equal opposite. The literal Hebrew is ‘surround in opposition’ (surround in the sense of protection). But the concept of a helper being inferior also stems from Hellenistic Greek philosophy.”

  2. wait…so you’re saying that it would be acceptable to God if a couple decided for the dad to stay home with the kids? (I say this tongue-and-cheek) Some of the most current popular Christian pastors/teachers right now (such as Mark Driscoll) say, “if you cannot provide for your family than you’re not a man.” I’m not sure if this makes me more sorrowful or irate.

    1. It makes me irate. Basically what is being said is, “You have to conform to my definition of a man or you’re not a man.” Which is a round about way of saying, “I have authority of you.” Hence, again, going back to slavery. Granted most people probably don’t realize this when they say it but that doesn’t change what it is. There’s more to being set free than liberation from the bondage of sin. Hence the reason why Jesus said, “Take my yoke upon you and learn from me for I am gentle and humble in spirit and in me you will find rest for your soul.” and “Whom the Son sets free is free indeed.”

      1. this is the scripture he quotes: 1 Timothy 5:8
        But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

        And I think you’re right that most don’t realize what they are saying and what it implies. I mean, I used to believe and maybe even speak in similar ways…which spoke bondage to others rather than freedom…without my knowing. yikes. But I was living in that bondage, as well, unknowingly.

      2. Yes, but we have to realize Paul is instructing Timothy as a father instructs a son. In particular, he it telling Timothy that he is not responsible to take care of people who have someone who is responsible for taking care of them. And though Paul is talking to Timothy, he is not being gender specific. (‘His’ is used as a generic term here as it can refer to men or men and women.) Also, Timothy is a minster to the churches in the stead of Paul. So additionally Paul is saying that it is not a church’s responsibility to take care those who have someone who is responsible for taking care of them. Granted he also doesn’t forbid it, rather, he is establishing order.

  3. This is an interesting article. No major disagreement, but here are my thoughts.

    Tasha and I definitely have different roles, but it’s what works for us to prevent chaos in our lives with kids, and it’s what we believe together is God’s will for our family (emphasize “we”). I do “provide” financially, but to limit that word to strictly a monetary sense would be a grave mistake. We both provide for our family in many ways. “Different roles” does not mean inequality. Some may define it that way, but we don’t. That’s a typical way the world looks at it because they do not understand concepts about how grace blends with idea of how two different people can sharpen and provide for each other through each others strengths and weaknesses.
    The most common oppression however, in our experience, has be folks criticizing my wife’s life at home with the kids. She’s heard some very hurtful things from nasty women who view her decision to bless her kids with her attention and care as somehow oppressive or lazy. I’m not sure where that attitude comes from. Jealousy? Who knows. Frankly, I think it’s a lot easier to go to work than it is to stay at home and care for children. Somedays, i’m sure she’d love to switch roles, and well, sometimes we do.

    1. Ben,

      Thanks for sharing what you and your wife’s roles have looked like for y’all. I’d say the difference here is that you’ve together chosen these roles and out of freedom. (though you don’t seem locked into them, because as you said, sometimes you switch roles!) So I love that you emphasized “we.” That you and your wife are equals and together make decisions.

      I knew a couple once and the wife said that if the husband wanted to move and thought it a good idea, their family would do so, even if the she didn’t agree. She didn’t seem to like this reality, but accepted it thinking it her role/duty as the woman. I didn’t know any different then, but now it breaks my heart.

      So thanks for your story and for taking time to share. Maybe you know Joshua?

    2. Oh and I always think it’s crazy when other women view a stay-at-home mom as being lazy. I’ve never been a mom, but have a difficult enough time keeping my own life in order. To me, being a SAHM seems the most intense full-time job! Goodness, spending ENTIRE DAYS knowing every minute you spend counts and influences these little gems that are watching you, learning from you, being loved by you…and will grow up to impact our world. YIKES! Props to your wife.

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